MSP 1337 - Cybersecurity Maturity Journey | Guidance and Best Practices for MSPs
Educational sound bytes to help MSPs and their clients navigate Cybersecurity. Cybersecurity maturity is a journey; don't go it alone. Interviews and guidance from fellow MSPs and other Industry experts.
Our goal is Secure Outcomes, and together we can make a difference.
Recent Episodes
May 19, 2026
Governance, Risk, Compliance (GRC), and the MSP Wake-up Call
In this episode, Chris Johnson sits down with Eric Shoemaker of Genius GRC to unpack one of the most misunderstood shifts in the MSP space: the move from tool-driven cybersecurity to standards-aligned governance, risk, and co...
May 12, 2026
The New Reality for MSP Security Operations Center Services
In this episode of MSP1337 , Chris Johnson is joined by Jeff Majka, founder of Security Bulldog, to unpack why MSP‑delivered SOC services are at a breaking point, and how AI and automation are forcing a reset. They explore wh...
May 5, 2026
Guardrails, Drift, and Evidence: Cybersecurity Maturity is Continuous Improvements
Chris Johnson sits down with Ido Green of Espresso Labs to explore how AI and local agents can reduce cybersecurity noise, offload Level 1 work, and continuously enforce compliance, without losing human control. They discuss ...
April 28, 2026
Selling Cybersecurity to Skeptical Clients and Prospects
A sit-down with Hamid Ganadan, author of “Not Buying It: The Art of Selling to Scientists, Doctors, and Other Professional Skeptics,” on how MSPs can sell to skeptical, highly educated buyers. This is an exploration of the ps...
April 21, 2026
Compliance is the floor, not the ceiling
In this episode of MSP 1337 , Chris Johnson sits down with Jim Harryman to break down why passing audits doesn’t equal real security, and why MSPs get into trouble when frameworks turn into checklists. Drawing from firsthand ...
April 14, 2026
Cybersecurity Maturity Beyond Tools
Most MSPs don’t fail at cybersecurity because of missing tools; they stall because they miss the maturity inflection point where governance must replace tactics. In this episode, we break down what actually defines cybersecur...